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| Electra |
 Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 8:51 am |
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| Assumed one of the kids became pregnant / a father to be, either of the team or of the Underground, under Adam's supervision. How would Adam react ? |
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| PsiGen |
| Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 10:55 am |
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Hmmm.. difficult to judge considering how many people are in the Underground and it would depend on the age of the kid as well.
I think Adam would take the situation on its own merits, be a little sad and dissappointed if it were due to lack of precaution and planning, but would overly try and turn the situation around.
His emotions would surely depend on how well he knew the father and mother.
Now if it were Shalimar and Brennan... I think he'd react like any father would, and punch Brennan at least once! |
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| earth_fairy2005 |
| Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 2:15 pm |
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yeah i think trhat he will definately punch brennan if it was shalimar and brennan, how do you think he would react if it was emma and jesse who will he be mad at.  |
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| darkanger4u |
| Posted: Fri May 26, 2006 7:59 pm |
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| La Troienne |
| Posted: Sat May 27, 2006 2:08 am |
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Given that the kids are (chronologically) all adults, and as far as we know have taken no vows of non-breeding, why is this Adam's business, anyway?
Who gave Adam authority over their lives? |
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| Blackpanther |
| Posted: Sat May 27, 2006 11:46 am |
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| It's not about Adam's authority over thier lives, it is his business becuase he is a mentor for them, a father and a friend. Also such a child's genes could be very unstable and Adam would be the only person who could help. |
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| Posted: Sat May 27, 2006 5:16 pm |
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Blackpanther wrote: It's not about Adam's authority over thier lives, it is his business becuase he is a mentor for them, a father and a friend. Also such a child's genes could be very unstable and Adam would be the only person who could help.
Shalimar and Brennan are both pushing 30. Unless they are mentally or intellectually deficient, what they do with their lives really is their own concern, not Adam's.
If their progeny is a genetic mess, it's a given that Adam has already interferred too much. Genes aren't unstable, BTW. They simply are. This jargon is hocus-pocus Adam uses to con the kids into allowing continued experimentation.
If you are unfamiliar with Electra's essay about the nature of Adam's little band, you should read it. Ask her to post a link. |
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| Blackpanther |
| Posted: Sat May 27, 2006 5:41 pm |
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| I must have not been clear enough, this is not a question on wether Adam alows them to have a child, but rather what would Adam think about it. He is a person (fictional character) so like everyone else he would have an opinion. |
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| Posted: Sat May 27, 2006 6:26 pm |
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When you say, "it is his business", that goes way past having an opinion, and into the realm of active involvement or justifiable interference. Adam's relationships with the kids are questionable, if only you examine and think about them, which Electra has done.
Be brave. Read the essay. |
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| Blackpanther |
| Posted: Sun May 28, 2006 2:45 pm |
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| I ahve read the essay, a long tiem ago. And you are just twisting my words around too much. |
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| Posted: Sun May 28, 2006 6:13 pm |
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Blackpanther wrote: I ahve read the essay, a long tiem ago. And you are just twisting my words around too much.
No, either Adam has the authority and the right to intrude into the lives of adults or he does not. We were never shown anything to indicate the kids had given up any personal rights, so frankly it is creepy to believe that Adam can intrude into the lives of supposedly independent adults.
Unless, of course, the kids are indeed a flock of weak willed followers, and there is evidence of that. |
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| Electra |
| Posted: Mon May 29, 2006 1:40 pm |
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Blackpanther wrote: I must have not been clear enough, this is not a question on wether Adam alows them to have a child, but rather what would Adam think about it. He is a person (fictional character) so like everyone else he would have an opinion.... It's not about Adam's authority over thier lives, it is his business becuase he is a mentor for them, a father and a friend.
Okay, than on that basis. How would your father react if your teenage / young adult brother / sister came around telling your father she would have a child? Do you think your father would approve this? Do you think Adam's reaction could be similar to the reaction of your father? Why or why not? Do think Adam approves his kids going to bed with each other while they're living under his "parental" roof ? Just imagine. |
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| Posted: Mon May 29, 2006 2:07 pm |
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Well the "kids" in Mutant X are much older. And it is just so much more than a question age really. I don't really think Adam would disagree with them having sex, and he wouldn't have a right to interdict it. However i don't really know how he would react to a pregnacy. I think he would be happy for them on one hand, asuming they wanted a child and a family, but there is a also a question of "should mutants have children?". Adam already felt bad about what he had put the new mutants trough, and maybe, feeling that he shouldn't have done it. After all they can be dangerous. How much more dangerous would a a mutant with two powers be? I think he might feel that mutants shouldn't breed, so that would give him mixed feelings about such a pregnancy.
S'cuse the spelling & grammar mistakes, i'll correct them later.
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| Posted: Mon May 29, 2006 5:03 pm |
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Quote: Well the "kids" in Mutant X are much older. And it is just so much more than a question age really. I don't really think Adam would disagree with them having sex, and he wouldn't have a right to interdict it.
The 5 people living in the Zen Hole in the Ground are best compared to a work crew in an office, except they never go home. If you think of them in those terms, the possibilities for jealousies, feuds, utter disgust with odd personal habits [I wonder if Brennan ever learned to brush his teeth, for example--he might have green teeth by now] are unbounded. Now, stir sex into the mix, be it ever so casual, and you have potential for emotional explosions. The fact that 4 of the 5 Hole Denizens are not exactly intelligent and that the personalities there tend toward the criminal and dishonest, and the picture only gets darker.
Quote: However i don't really know how he would react to a pregnacy. I think he would be happy for them on one hand, asuming they wanted a child and a family, but there is a also a question of "should mutants have children?".
That's abstract. How would all of them react, if for example, Shalimar's feralness extended to having a uterus analogous to that of species that have multiple births, and she had 7 babies, all healthy, all noisy, all underfoot, diaper clotheslines strung everywhere? Very messy. Very disruptive.
And won't it be interesting when Shalimar starts bringing home still-living mice to turn loose so she can teach her children how to hunt?
Quote: Adam already felt bad about what he had put the new mutants trough, and maybe, feeling that he shouldn't have done it.
Did he? Mostly he gave lip service to a pose, and a flimsy story about saving sick children.
Quote: After all they can be dangerous. How much more dangerous would a a mutant with two powers be? I think he might feel that mutants shouldn't breed, so that would give him mixed feelings about such a pregnancy.
Adam knew what he was about. Remember, even at the end of Ashlocke's life, as dangerous as Ashlocke was, Adam was not prepared to destroy him despite the threat he was to humanity in general. |
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| Electra |
| Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 11:39 am |
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Quote: Well the "kids" in Mutant X are much older.
The actors are older. The kids are begin to late 20's but seemingly something's wrong with them. Brennan even has toy cars. They all have their separate bedrooms, like living in a special shelter institution. Shelter institution usually forbid their inmates to have sex.
Quote: I don't really think Adam would disagree with them having sex, and he wouldn't have a right to interdict it.
With Shalimar pregnant, he would lose his strongest fighter for maybe up to three years. Even if they are in a normal "employment" for pay, I don't think Adam as the "employer" would not try to say a word on it. |
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